Love Systems

Love Systems was formed in late 2007 by noted dating coach Savoy and the top instructors from The Mystery Method and other prominent members of the Seduction Community. The concept behind the Seduction Community is that men who are highly successful with attractive women can combine their experiences into a mutual pool of knowledge, and discover the core principles in human interactions that are near universal principles to relationships. While nothing is true 100% of the time, and certain things will only work for a small percentage of the population, by focusing on what works and is true the vast majority of the time, it is possible to accelerate one’s learning curve. Love Systems' aim is to develop next generation concepts for attracting and having successful relationships with desirable, beautiful women. Love Systems teaches men that regardless of whether they are looking for a long-term relationship or a one-night stand with a woman that their first goal is to establish a sexual relationship with her.

Metholodogy

At the heart of the Love Systems philosophy is the "triad". Men seeking to develop a sexual relationship with a woman should try to "progress" along the dimensions of the triad:

* Emotionally - a woman has to be emotionally "ready" to sleet with you. The flagship Love Systems book, Magic Bullets, is in part devoted to introducing the Emotional Progression Model. It is also summarized on the Love Systems' Publications Library . Love Systems divides emotional progression into seven sequential phases and gives a step-by-step approach for each. Thus, for example, the third phase is "attraction", which is where a man uses Love Systems' techniques and routines to generate interest from a woman in him. When she has given sufficient "signs of attraction", the man moves onto the fourth phase: "qualification". Qualification is where a man helps a woman feel that she has "won him over" with her personality as opposed to just based on her looks.

* Physically - what Love Systems calls the "physical conversation", otherwise known as touching or "kino". The Physical Progression Model follows a similar track to the Emotional one, but with four instead of seven phases: friendly touch; flirtatious touch; romantic touch; and sexual touch.

* Logistically - mapping out all of the different techniques and "moves" to get a woman from where a man first meets her (usually when she is with her friends, in public) to a sexual situation where he is a alone with her in a place where sex could reasonably happen. This Logistic Progression Model navigates through dates, phone calls, "instant dates", moving venues with a woman met that night, etc.

In the media

Love Systems' best-known media appearance comes from one of its instructors, Cajun, going on as a contestant on the hit TV show Keys to the VIP. Every episode of this show is set up a pickup competition between two men, recorded with hidden cameras and microphones. Through a series of timed tasks (e.g., get a kiss, get a makeout, etc.) a winner is declared. Despite being about 5'4, thin, and not especially attractive, Cajun used the textbook Love Systems approach for his results and easily won the competition. Cajun described exactly what he did and why at each stage of the show in a series of posts on the free public dating science forum The Attraction Forums.

Love Systems has also been profiled through interviews with Savoy, Program Leader of Love Systems:

* Interviewed by CBS Radio
* Interview with Brink Magazine (Hong Kong)
* WWWT radio interview

Notoriety

Love Systems has earned a certain amount of notoriety for publicly discussing some of its instructors' pickups of female celebrities. One example of this is the "Mr. M (a Love Systems' instructor) seduces the Playboy Playmate series, also in their Publication Library.

Controversy Over Use of 'Routines'

Many in the seduction community do not like the idea that Love Systems teaches "Routines". A routine is anything that a man can say or do that has a purpose of progressing him along one or more stems of the Triad. Routines include "openers" used to start a conversation, stories that elicit a particular emotional state, or even "Seduction Routines" to make a resistant woman more interested in having sex. Savoy and fellow Love Systems instructor The Don have compiled a few hundred routines into the Love Systems Routines Manual.. Although Love Systems teaches men to develop routines based on their own life experiences, some critics have complained that providing men with word-for-word texts of what Love Systems instructors actually use to attract women will lead them to simply copy these instead of expressing their own personality.

Proponents of 'natural game' believe the most important thing is that a man develop his identity and his natural confidence and conversational skills. These critics believe that handing someone stock routines inhibits and even damages all three of these qualities. On the point of identity being the most crucial part of being an attractive man, even Love Systems' instructors agree: The Love Systems instructors observe that ultimately the most attractive thing about you is your identity and your lifestyle (footnote: audio clip at the bottom of http://www.ivspodcast.com/identity.html).

Relationship Management

While there are others in the Seduction Community who specialize in long term relationships, it is a dramatically underdeveloped section of the Seduction Community. This is especially controversial as it lends credence to the claim that the seduction community isn't really committed to leaving women better than they found them, but simply a group of men looking to exploit women. Savoy has given talks on Relationship Management , and he state that his belief is that while women won't admit publicly they are interested in short term flings, privately they feel otherwise. On the flip side Savoy has stated, "I don’t know how many guys even want to get into the business of harem-management long term. . . . That does sound pretty time-consuming."

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