Universe reality is a cosmological and metaphysical concept outlined in The Urantia Book. A complex presentation is given of the idea of "infinite reality". The book presents the idea of the source of infinity as being the deities that compose themselves into a trinity, and the nonpersonal and nonmaterial center known as paradise. These four elements compose themselves into various combinations which The Urantia Book claims to be the basis of all universe reality.
Basics of universe reality
There are three primal phases which give origin to many different levels of reality. These three primal phases are identified as 1) undeified reality 2) deified reality and 3) interassociated reality.
Undiefied reality— ranges from the nonpersonal energy domains, to the domain of nonpersonalizable values, to the domain of the infinite and absolute potential of nondeity reality.
Deified reality— ranges from infinite and absolute deity potential, including dimensions of personality from the finite and human level to the highest levels of celestial personality.
Interassociated reality— can be deified or nondeified, potential or actualizing, and is co-ordinated on a vast spectrum of levels.
From the viewpoint of time and space, reality further divides as:
Actual and potential— the reality that actually exists vs the reality which potentially exists and allows for the capacity for growth.
Absolute and subabsolute— absolute reality is that which exists in the primary deity and Paradise elements. Subabsolute realities are less than absolute: the Urantia Book says these are projected onto two levels: realities which are relative to both time and "eternity" (a dimension where there is no time), and realities which are projected in space and are actualized in time.
Existential and experiential— Paradise Deity, or primary deity, is existential, but the emerging "Supreme and Ultimate Deities" are evolutionary and experiential.
Personal and impersonal— this makes personality distinct from mind, spirit, and energy-matter. This allows the expansion, expression and evolution of deity personality, and the personal encounter with nonpersonal or impersonal realities.
God as source of reality
The "Universal Father", who is considered to be the primal source of universe reality, distinguishes himself into a second and third personality, which thereby allows him to "escape as a personality from otherwise inevitable diffusion throughout the potential of Total Deity".
When the Universe Father distinguishes "deity and nondeity", this gives rise to absolute nondeity reality, which is designated as "paradise". The four elements of the Universal Father, Eternal Son, the Infinite Spirit, and Paradise are composed of various qualities. Together these four elements are organized into the different dimensions of universe reality, and are considered to be the sources of actual universe reality as well as potential universe reality.
The name given by the Urantia Book for the infinite potential of deity reality is the "Deity Absolute". The name for the infinite potential of nondeity reality is the "Unqualified Absolute". The division of infinite potential reality into deity and nondeity brings about a tension between these two opposites and is called the "Universal Absolute". The Universal Absolute is deity activity that mediates and resolves the tension between these two polarities in infinite potential reality. This dynamic relationship is said to be the basis of the "circle of eternity".
"This is the primal concept of original reality: The Universal Father initiates and maintains reality. The primal differentials of reality are the deified and the undeified-the Deity Absolute and Unqualified Absolute. The primal relationship is the tension between them. This tension is resolved by the Universal Absolute".
Human level of reality
The conceptual framework for the Urantia Book's presentation of universe reality is first presented in the foreword, but is developed over several chapters in the first section. The primary realities at the human level are divided into a) personality b) mind c) matter-energy d) spirit and e) soul, which is a "unique new" entity. The soul is the mechanism for God to participate in the "evolutionary deity" phase of reality. Reality as understood by finite beings is partial, relative, and shadowy.
Physical energy
The Urantia Book presents a discussion of the source and composition of various forms of energy and matter. At the most basic level it says that energy is composed of three forms: "cosmic force" which is not yet responsive to Paradise gravity; "emergent energy" which does respond to Paradise gravity, but not yet to the gravity of local universes; and "universe power" which "includes all forms of energy which, while still responding to Paradise gravity, are directly responsive to linear gravity. This is the electronic level of energy-matter".
Infinity
Infinity is said to be composed of actual and potential reality, deity and nondeity.
The elements of actual reality are the three primary deity personalities, and nondeity reality called "paradise".
Deity one is the primal source of universe reality, and the pre-personality source of mortal humans. Deity two is the source of spirit and the convergence of universe spirit forces. Deity three is the source of mind and the convergence of universe mind forces. Gravity and energy originate and converge in the element designated as Paradise .
The elements of potential infinite reality are designated as:
1) the potential infinite capacity for deity activity is called Deity Absolute.
The Deity Absolute is that potential which was segregated from infinite reality which is deified and qualified reality. The Deity Absolute orginated by the personal freewill act of the primary source deity.
2) the potential infinite capacity for nondeity reaction to deity activity is called the Unqualified Absolute.
The Unqualified Absolute is that potential which was segregated from infinite reality which is nondeified and unqualified reality.
3) the unification and co-ordination of potential diety and nondeity reality is called the Universal Absolute.
Basics of universe reality
There are three primal phases which give origin to many different levels of reality. These three primal phases are identified as 1) undeified reality 2) deified reality and 3) interassociated reality.
Undiefied reality— ranges from the nonpersonal energy domains, to the domain of nonpersonalizable values, to the domain of the infinite and absolute potential of nondeity reality.
Deified reality— ranges from infinite and absolute deity potential, including dimensions of personality from the finite and human level to the highest levels of celestial personality.
Interassociated reality— can be deified or nondeified, potential or actualizing, and is co-ordinated on a vast spectrum of levels.
From the viewpoint of time and space, reality further divides as:
Actual and potential— the reality that actually exists vs the reality which potentially exists and allows for the capacity for growth.
Absolute and subabsolute— absolute reality is that which exists in the primary deity and Paradise elements. Subabsolute realities are less than absolute: the Urantia Book says these are projected onto two levels: realities which are relative to both time and "eternity" (a dimension where there is no time), and realities which are projected in space and are actualized in time.
Existential and experiential— Paradise Deity, or primary deity, is existential, but the emerging "Supreme and Ultimate Deities" are evolutionary and experiential.
Personal and impersonal— this makes personality distinct from mind, spirit, and energy-matter. This allows the expansion, expression and evolution of deity personality, and the personal encounter with nonpersonal or impersonal realities.
God as source of reality
The "Universal Father", who is considered to be the primal source of universe reality, distinguishes himself into a second and third personality, which thereby allows him to "escape as a personality from otherwise inevitable diffusion throughout the potential of Total Deity".
When the Universe Father distinguishes "deity and nondeity", this gives rise to absolute nondeity reality, which is designated as "paradise". The four elements of the Universal Father, Eternal Son, the Infinite Spirit, and Paradise are composed of various qualities. Together these four elements are organized into the different dimensions of universe reality, and are considered to be the sources of actual universe reality as well as potential universe reality.
The name given by the Urantia Book for the infinite potential of deity reality is the "Deity Absolute". The name for the infinite potential of nondeity reality is the "Unqualified Absolute". The division of infinite potential reality into deity and nondeity brings about a tension between these two opposites and is called the "Universal Absolute". The Universal Absolute is deity activity that mediates and resolves the tension between these two polarities in infinite potential reality. This dynamic relationship is said to be the basis of the "circle of eternity".
"This is the primal concept of original reality: The Universal Father initiates and maintains reality. The primal differentials of reality are the deified and the undeified-the Deity Absolute and Unqualified Absolute. The primal relationship is the tension between them. This tension is resolved by the Universal Absolute".
Human level of reality
The conceptual framework for the Urantia Book's presentation of universe reality is first presented in the foreword, but is developed over several chapters in the first section. The primary realities at the human level are divided into a) personality b) mind c) matter-energy d) spirit and e) soul, which is a "unique new" entity. The soul is the mechanism for God to participate in the "evolutionary deity" phase of reality. Reality as understood by finite beings is partial, relative, and shadowy.
Physical energy
The Urantia Book presents a discussion of the source and composition of various forms of energy and matter. At the most basic level it says that energy is composed of three forms: "cosmic force" which is not yet responsive to Paradise gravity; "emergent energy" which does respond to Paradise gravity, but not yet to the gravity of local universes; and "universe power" which "includes all forms of energy which, while still responding to Paradise gravity, are directly responsive to linear gravity. This is the electronic level of energy-matter".
Infinity
Infinity is said to be composed of actual and potential reality, deity and nondeity.
The elements of actual reality are the three primary deity personalities, and nondeity reality called "paradise".
Deity one is the primal source of universe reality, and the pre-personality source of mortal humans. Deity two is the source of spirit and the convergence of universe spirit forces. Deity three is the source of mind and the convergence of universe mind forces. Gravity and energy originate and converge in the element designated as Paradise .
The elements of potential infinite reality are designated as:
1) the potential infinite capacity for deity activity is called Deity Absolute.
The Deity Absolute is that potential which was segregated from infinite reality which is deified and qualified reality. The Deity Absolute orginated by the personal freewill act of the primary source deity.
2) the potential infinite capacity for nondeity reaction to deity activity is called the Unqualified Absolute.
The Unqualified Absolute is that potential which was segregated from infinite reality which is nondeified and unqualified reality.
3) the unification and co-ordination of potential diety and nondeity reality is called the Universal Absolute.
In computing, PowerAda is a commercial Ada compiler by OC Systems. It is used widely in aerospace and DOD projects.
It includes a unique debugging capability that allows for dynamic instrumentation of program code for testing that it is non-intrusive and requires no changes to the source, facilitating the creation of plug-n-play test components.
It includes a unique debugging capability that allows for dynamic instrumentation of program code for testing that it is non-intrusive and requires no changes to the source, facilitating the creation of plug-n-play test components.
Cat-like aliens, or Felinoids —aliens that resemble terrestrial cats—are a common fixture in science fiction. They have become a common trope of fictional aliens, being seen in many fictional universes.
Feline aliens in fiction
* The Iskai - Blue Byte Software, Albion (Computer Roleplaying Game):
Iskai are similar to humans, though their evolutionary path must have originated with felines. They are generally taller and thinner than humans, due to the gravity on Albion being 90% of what it is on earth. The body of an Iskai is covered with short, dense fur, with longer patches over the chest and waist area, and a slightly different colour hair covering their heads. The face of an Iskai is mainly cat like, with two visible canines. Iskai senses are better than those of humans, especially their sense of smell. Iskai are omnivorous. Though called mammals in spite of living on another planet, they have a few physiological features that differ noticeably from all species of Earth mammals, such as an emphatic/telepathic forehead organ called a Trii and bony "claws" between their toes rather than at the end of them.
* The Oriani - Leslie Gadallah, Cat's Pawn (Novel):
A pacifistic race of feline aliens who are at the center of a mystery in the book Cat's Pawn. The mystery (and the plot of the book) follow the main character, a human, as he uncovers the Oriani's deep dark secret. Their homeworld is Orion.
* The Khanate of Orion - Steven V Cole, Starfire universe:
A race of humanoid felines that believes strongly in honor and fighting, the Khanate was the first empire encountered by the human Federation. The Khanate and the Federation clashed during Interstellar Wars 1 and 2, but new leadership and a common enemy during Interstellar War 3 brought the two enemies together as allies. They have remained on good terms since that time.
* The Hani - C. J. Cherryh, The Chanur Novels:
A race of feline-like aliens featured largely in the Chanur Novels (Chanur is the family name of the primary Hani characters. The hani most closely resemble lions, with manes and beards on both sexes. Their fur primarily comes in shades of red and gold. Their society is very clannish, each clan consisting of several females and young and one male. Only female Hani are allowed to go into space, males remain on their homeworld. The Hani homeworld is Anuurn. (The first book in the Chanur Series: Pride of Chanur was nominated for the Hugo Award for best novel).
* The Gambolts - Robert Asprin, Phule Novels:
The Gambolts are a feline species in the Phule novels, one of the three alien races that have allied with humans - they are briefly mentioned in the first book (Phule's Company) but no actual members of the species are seen until the third book (A Phule and His Money). Gambolts are known for being faster, more agile and stronger than the human recruits in the Legion, but are also possessed of many catlike traits, including the desire to chase and catch small moving animals. The Gambolt species is also referenced in the Timewalkers RPG at www.warboards.org and their description matches that given in the Phule Novels, with the exception of a few added fur colors.
* The Kilrathi - Wing Commander (Computer game):
The Kilrathi are feline aliens who resemble tigers but who have additional markings that identify which clans they belong to. Their society is an empire, the species itself having many warlike tendencies due to their predatory and territorial nature. They have appeared in every Wing Commander game to date, as well as making an appearance (slightly altered) in the Wing Commander movie.
* The Hrrubans - Anne McCaffrey and Jody Lynn Nye (Doona novels)
* Feline Alien Research Troop - BoomBots (Video game)
* The Kzinti - Larry Niven, Man-Kzin Wars:
Kzin (plural: Kzinti) are a warlike species that have colonized parts of Known Space close to the solar system. Kzinti were first introduced by Niven in the Known Space sequence of short stories, and a Kzin character "Speaker to Animals" was then featured as one of the main characters in Niven's celebrated novel Ringworld (1970). This portion of Niven's universe was then spun off into a separate series, in which other writers were allowed to set stories, the "Man-Kzin Wars" series. They also appeared in Star Trek: The Animated Series.
* Cynthians - Poul Anderson, Polesotechnic League:
About three foot tall, furry, highly matriarchal sophonts, companions of the humans of Anderson's Technic History. One appears as an employee of Nicholas van Rijn, more appear in Dominic Flandry's era.
* The Scrameustache - the main character from a popular Belgian comic series.
* The Sholan - Lisanne Norman, Sholan Alliance Series (novels)
* The Torrans - Jane Palmer, The Planet Dweller
* Treecats - David Weber's Honorverse
* The Imkairi - Andrea Alton, Demon of Undoing
* Ci-Kat-A - Swat Cats
* Ctarl-Ctarl - Outlaw Star - A warlike species which controls a sizeable empire. They appear humanoid but have brown/orange fur, large cat-like ears, and a tail. The Ctarl-Ctarl have superhuman strength and speed. They are able to increase their power further for short periods of time but doing so seems to consume a lot of calories and so they tend to eat large amounts of food; as much as eight times as much as an average human. They are also shapeshifters that can transform into massive white tigers, though this ability is dependent on the phases of the moon. They had been at war with humans for quite some time but at the time Outlaw Star takes place the two have a neutral stance towards each other.
* The Coeurl - A. E. van Vogt, The Voyage of the Space Beagle
* The Nephilim - Avernum game series
* The Runa - Mary Doria Russell, The Sparrow
* - Babylon 5
* Spacecats - The Brak Show, Space Ghost Coast To Coast, Space Ghost
* The Sisters of Plenitude - Doctor Who (New Earth/Gridlock)
* Lynxians - Atomic Betty
* Mrrshan - Master of Orion game series. An aggressive, warlike race throughout the series, often first to attack another empire. The Mrrshan are the only race to have an empress as opposed to an emperor in the first game, though they change to an emperor by the time of the second installment. They were also one of the few races to challenge the New Orions prior to Master of Orion 3, and where all but wiped out and were no longer playable. However, the player could recuit two Mrrshan leaders and incorporate scattered groups into their nation's population.
*Felysians - Noctis computer game. Sometimes spelled 'felisians'.
*Caitians - Star Trek The Animated Series
*The ThunderCats.
*The Aslan from the Traveller RPG
*The Tran, natives of Tran-Ky-Ky in Alan Dean Foster's Icerigger.
*The Felinefolk (Also known as the Fellpool) from the Star Ocean series.
*The Catians from Star Trek
Feline aliens in fiction
* The Iskai - Blue Byte Software, Albion (Computer Roleplaying Game):
Iskai are similar to humans, though their evolutionary path must have originated with felines. They are generally taller and thinner than humans, due to the gravity on Albion being 90% of what it is on earth. The body of an Iskai is covered with short, dense fur, with longer patches over the chest and waist area, and a slightly different colour hair covering their heads. The face of an Iskai is mainly cat like, with two visible canines. Iskai senses are better than those of humans, especially their sense of smell. Iskai are omnivorous. Though called mammals in spite of living on another planet, they have a few physiological features that differ noticeably from all species of Earth mammals, such as an emphatic/telepathic forehead organ called a Trii and bony "claws" between their toes rather than at the end of them.
* The Oriani - Leslie Gadallah, Cat's Pawn (Novel):
A pacifistic race of feline aliens who are at the center of a mystery in the book Cat's Pawn. The mystery (and the plot of the book) follow the main character, a human, as he uncovers the Oriani's deep dark secret. Their homeworld is Orion.
* The Khanate of Orion - Steven V Cole, Starfire universe:
A race of humanoid felines that believes strongly in honor and fighting, the Khanate was the first empire encountered by the human Federation. The Khanate and the Federation clashed during Interstellar Wars 1 and 2, but new leadership and a common enemy during Interstellar War 3 brought the two enemies together as allies. They have remained on good terms since that time.
* The Hani - C. J. Cherryh, The Chanur Novels:
A race of feline-like aliens featured largely in the Chanur Novels (Chanur is the family name of the primary Hani characters. The hani most closely resemble lions, with manes and beards on both sexes. Their fur primarily comes in shades of red and gold. Their society is very clannish, each clan consisting of several females and young and one male. Only female Hani are allowed to go into space, males remain on their homeworld. The Hani homeworld is Anuurn. (The first book in the Chanur Series: Pride of Chanur was nominated for the Hugo Award for best novel).
* The Gambolts - Robert Asprin, Phule Novels:
The Gambolts are a feline species in the Phule novels, one of the three alien races that have allied with humans - they are briefly mentioned in the first book (Phule's Company) but no actual members of the species are seen until the third book (A Phule and His Money). Gambolts are known for being faster, more agile and stronger than the human recruits in the Legion, but are also possessed of many catlike traits, including the desire to chase and catch small moving animals. The Gambolt species is also referenced in the Timewalkers RPG at www.warboards.org and their description matches that given in the Phule Novels, with the exception of a few added fur colors.
* The Kilrathi - Wing Commander (Computer game):
The Kilrathi are feline aliens who resemble tigers but who have additional markings that identify which clans they belong to. Their society is an empire, the species itself having many warlike tendencies due to their predatory and territorial nature. They have appeared in every Wing Commander game to date, as well as making an appearance (slightly altered) in the Wing Commander movie.
* The Hrrubans - Anne McCaffrey and Jody Lynn Nye (Doona novels)
* Feline Alien Research Troop - BoomBots (Video game)
* The Kzinti - Larry Niven, Man-Kzin Wars:
Kzin (plural: Kzinti) are a warlike species that have colonized parts of Known Space close to the solar system. Kzinti were first introduced by Niven in the Known Space sequence of short stories, and a Kzin character "Speaker to Animals" was then featured as one of the main characters in Niven's celebrated novel Ringworld (1970). This portion of Niven's universe was then spun off into a separate series, in which other writers were allowed to set stories, the "Man-Kzin Wars" series. They also appeared in Star Trek: The Animated Series.
* Cynthians - Poul Anderson, Polesotechnic League:
About three foot tall, furry, highly matriarchal sophonts, companions of the humans of Anderson's Technic History. One appears as an employee of Nicholas van Rijn, more appear in Dominic Flandry's era.
* The Scrameustache - the main character from a popular Belgian comic series.
* The Sholan - Lisanne Norman, Sholan Alliance Series (novels)
* The Torrans - Jane Palmer, The Planet Dweller
* Treecats - David Weber's Honorverse
* The Imkairi - Andrea Alton, Demon of Undoing
* Ci-Kat-A - Swat Cats
* Ctarl-Ctarl - Outlaw Star - A warlike species which controls a sizeable empire. They appear humanoid but have brown/orange fur, large cat-like ears, and a tail. The Ctarl-Ctarl have superhuman strength and speed. They are able to increase their power further for short periods of time but doing so seems to consume a lot of calories and so they tend to eat large amounts of food; as much as eight times as much as an average human. They are also shapeshifters that can transform into massive white tigers, though this ability is dependent on the phases of the moon. They had been at war with humans for quite some time but at the time Outlaw Star takes place the two have a neutral stance towards each other.
* The Coeurl - A. E. van Vogt, The Voyage of the Space Beagle
* The Nephilim - Avernum game series
* The Runa - Mary Doria Russell, The Sparrow
* - Babylon 5
* Spacecats - The Brak Show, Space Ghost Coast To Coast, Space Ghost
* The Sisters of Plenitude - Doctor Who (New Earth/Gridlock)
* Lynxians - Atomic Betty
* Mrrshan - Master of Orion game series. An aggressive, warlike race throughout the series, often first to attack another empire. The Mrrshan are the only race to have an empress as opposed to an emperor in the first game, though they change to an emperor by the time of the second installment. They were also one of the few races to challenge the New Orions prior to Master of Orion 3, and where all but wiped out and were no longer playable. However, the player could recuit two Mrrshan leaders and incorporate scattered groups into their nation's population.
*Felysians - Noctis computer game. Sometimes spelled 'felisians'.
*Caitians - Star Trek The Animated Series
*The ThunderCats.
*The Aslan from the Traveller RPG
*The Tran, natives of Tran-Ky-Ky in Alan Dean Foster's Icerigger.
*The Felinefolk (Also known as the Fellpool) from the Star Ocean series.
*The Catians from Star Trek
The 86 List is a punk rock band from Honolulu, Hawaiʻi which has a strong following amongst members of the city's punk scene.
History
The band was founded by guitarist Josh Hancock and drummer Derek Hoeft during their time at Kahuku High School, and its early years were characterized by struggles to find a bassist and a name. In their earlier years, they went by "The Conflicts" and "Red Tape," but both were considered too similar to the names of existing bands. Their eventual name refers to the "86 list" in a coffee shop where Josh 86 worked. It was a list of things missing from its inventory, and alludes to the 86 List's songs' lyrical content, which concerns things which are missing or should be missing from society.
After what Hancock characterizes as a series of "100 bassists" who were unreliable or joined the army, Otto Cake joined the band, impressing Hancock and Hoeft with his dedication. The band played its first show on July 2, 2000, and were impressed by the level of audience participation.
profile in local music with groups such as The Sticklers and as owner of a bakery that also staged punk rock shows and the catchiness of their music helped the band grow into a place in the local scene.
In 2001, the group released its first album, Disaster. Novermber of that year saw Hoeft leave Hawaiʻi due to the transfer of his father, a soldier, to a mainland military base. He was replaced by Sean Tasaki on the drums. A second guitarist known as Spanky was added to the band as well. It was with this lineup that the band continued until April 2002, when Josh 86's departure for the mainland led to the dissolution of the band. However, Hancock returned to Hawaiʻi in 2003 and the band reformed and released its second CD, Our Neighborhood.
In May and June of 2003, The 86 List went on a tour of California, with a lineup that included, in addition to Hancock, Tasaki, and Cake, saxophonist TR. After the tour, they were rejoined by Derek Derilect, who returned to Hawaiʻi, replacing Tasaki on the drums. They released their third CD, Tattoo, in April of 2004, but, owing to Otto's spinal arthritis, which rendered playing the bass difficult to play for him, they broke up once again following a show on November 12, 2004.
In fall of 2005, the band reformed once again and has been playing since.
In 2007, the band released another CD, entiled "86." A party on March 3rd, 2007 was held to promote the CD at Anna Banana's, in which the band gave away free copies of the CD to anyone who attended. The Sticklers, The Hell Caminos, The Skullfux, and The Democratic Fistfights all opened for The 86 List. Patches, and other merchandise were also given away and on sale. The CD features tracks such as "HPD", and a live version of "Too Free for Me."
You might also recognize Josh 86 and Derek from the popular TV show Lost. They are in the show's fictional band Driveshaft.
Music and Influences
The 86 List cites as primary musical influences Rancid, Operation Ivy and the Clash, and their music is described as similar to the latter group's. Their lyrics also have a chant-along quality, of which Otto says, “People will grab the mic away and sing for us. For some reason, the songs have that beat and that sing-along quality that people connect to."
Members
Current lineup
* - lead vocals, guitar
*Otto Cake - bass, backup vocals
* - drums, backup vocals
Past members
*Chris, a.k.a. Beatrice - bass (1999)
*Sean Tasaki - drums (2001-2003)
*Spencer, a.k.a. Spanky - second guitar (2001-2002)
*TR - saxophone (2003)
Discography
*Disaster - 2001
*Our Neighborhood - 2003
*Tattoo - 2004
*86 - 2007
History
The band was founded by guitarist Josh Hancock and drummer Derek Hoeft during their time at Kahuku High School, and its early years were characterized by struggles to find a bassist and a name. In their earlier years, they went by "The Conflicts" and "Red Tape," but both were considered too similar to the names of existing bands. Their eventual name refers to the "86 list" in a coffee shop where Josh 86 worked. It was a list of things missing from its inventory, and alludes to the 86 List's songs' lyrical content, which concerns things which are missing or should be missing from society.
After what Hancock characterizes as a series of "100 bassists" who were unreliable or joined the army, Otto Cake joined the band, impressing Hancock and Hoeft with his dedication. The band played its first show on July 2, 2000, and were impressed by the level of audience participation.
profile in local music with groups such as The Sticklers and as owner of a bakery that also staged punk rock shows and the catchiness of their music helped the band grow into a place in the local scene.
In 2001, the group released its first album, Disaster. Novermber of that year saw Hoeft leave Hawaiʻi due to the transfer of his father, a soldier, to a mainland military base. He was replaced by Sean Tasaki on the drums. A second guitarist known as Spanky was added to the band as well. It was with this lineup that the band continued until April 2002, when Josh 86's departure for the mainland led to the dissolution of the band. However, Hancock returned to Hawaiʻi in 2003 and the band reformed and released its second CD, Our Neighborhood.
In May and June of 2003, The 86 List went on a tour of California, with a lineup that included, in addition to Hancock, Tasaki, and Cake, saxophonist TR. After the tour, they were rejoined by Derek Derilect, who returned to Hawaiʻi, replacing Tasaki on the drums. They released their third CD, Tattoo, in April of 2004, but, owing to Otto's spinal arthritis, which rendered playing the bass difficult to play for him, they broke up once again following a show on November 12, 2004.
In fall of 2005, the band reformed once again and has been playing since.
In 2007, the band released another CD, entiled "86." A party on March 3rd, 2007 was held to promote the CD at Anna Banana's, in which the band gave away free copies of the CD to anyone who attended. The Sticklers, The Hell Caminos, The Skullfux, and The Democratic Fistfights all opened for The 86 List. Patches, and other merchandise were also given away and on sale. The CD features tracks such as "HPD", and a live version of "Too Free for Me."
You might also recognize Josh 86 and Derek from the popular TV show Lost. They are in the show's fictional band Driveshaft.
Music and Influences
The 86 List cites as primary musical influences Rancid, Operation Ivy and the Clash, and their music is described as similar to the latter group's. Their lyrics also have a chant-along quality, of which Otto says, “People will grab the mic away and sing for us. For some reason, the songs have that beat and that sing-along quality that people connect to."
Members
Current lineup
* - lead vocals, guitar
*Otto Cake - bass, backup vocals
* - drums, backup vocals
Past members
*Chris, a.k.a. Beatrice - bass (1999)
*Sean Tasaki - drums (2001-2003)
*Spencer, a.k.a. Spanky - second guitar (2001-2002)
*TR - saxophone (2003)
Discography
*Disaster - 2001
*Our Neighborhood - 2003
*Tattoo - 2004
*86 - 2007